More Americans of all tax brackets can play the item was my theory. THEY NEVER EVEN SHIPPED MY FAKE DRIVER. If you dont get fitted at an open sky range with a Pro that possesses a flight scope monitor or a Trackman monitoryou are cheating yourself. The majority of these counterfeiters do not produce left hand models. Other than that that these were very good counterfeits with only very mimimal differences from the genuine Ping clubs. Althoughironically many are funded by Taiwanese investorsinteresting huh. Admittedly, I dont brush the head after every shot. I ask abut the low prices, why that is, they said they buy directly from manufacturer and post to customer as a gift. Brand List General Points TaylorMade . i really need your help is tgw.com a faulty website???? Who knows what is happening to your information? : This is another perfect example of the thieves that masquerade as golf retailers in the boundless world that is the internet. I cant put with my real Odyssey, and dont want to shell out 180 on the real thing. Ive been debating for a while now whether to purchase a new set of irons online or not and after my due diligence, I came across several online retailers. chuanglianwangluokeji OEM is an extremely confusing and contradictaroy term. How screwed am I? Looks like golfsaleau.com is another one or same. please help. I only paid $389. Young man that started the company went to Purdue University and was a fraternity brother of a friend of mines son. Very quick (free!) I also do not understand and maybe mygolfspy can answer how these OEM can sell clubs with no serial numbers, are these still the same as off the shelf clubs or is just pot luck? NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! So I guess that the ProV 1s that Suno Golf offers and claims are 2008s and 2009s to justify the huge price discount, are fakes?? I had good replies to my questions when I asked them about fakes (and other things mentioned in this article) and they have over 200,000 transactions with 99.8% rating. This information has been very helpful. Iron sets will have the serial number on either the 5 iron (for older models) or the 7 iron (on newer models). (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. Notice how the counterfeit sits extremely closed when sitting on the ground. When I told them the bolts came completely out, they suggrsted that I take the clubs to an authorized dealer to see if they might be counterfeit. Callaway clubs normally have the serial numbers laser etched on and it is on one club for iron sets. Creation Date: 1999-04-07 Dont be a foul like I was and buy from Sunogolf. Now, it will be interested to see what happens when the driver is delivered because one, it had a 30 day money back guarantee and two, because he paid with a credit card he feels he might be able to dispute the charges if he finds that the item is counterfeit. Ill post any further response from them. So going with a reputable shop would be my suggestion. stay as far away from them as you can. There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. The Hurricane site is similar to RockBottom and then they have their component business. I 00:20:12 Counterfeit Ping G30 Driver. All, I just see that 2nd Swing has put up a set of obviously fake Miura MC-501s on their website. Counterfeit Mizuno MX-700 Fairway Cover. Almost all of the big chains have had to implement mandatory inspections of every club that comes through their shop because the quality of the counterfeits are getting so good. They tell me they do not sell fakes, or copies and have factory authorized warrantied products. maby it would help if everybody that bought clubs from reputable sources would register them with the maker, there would be a lot less legit numbers out there floating around. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 Anyway, keep in touch, and feel free to call us with any questions or concerns you might have. Here it is again. Their clubs aint too bad. Golf Stix, Inc. Tks, Has any one purchase from tim the putterman , hes on ebay. Hi. Stipulating that a hunk of metal at the end of a stick qualifies as intellectual property, these companies admittedly contract the manufacturing of their clubs to Chinese companies because the production quality and cost is unbeatable. All of them show Chicago. North Chili, NY 14514 Being cheated is much worst than the loss of money. Entrepreneur and CRB started with CRBs database of more than 19 million U.S. businesses and considered only those businesses that met the following criteria: * Must have been founded no earlier than 1998 and no later than 2002 Qualified candidates will thrive in a hospitality environment and be highly focused on providing superior service to the clubs managed by Troon. Just buy new from a dealer is the easy answer. Do they do steak knives? So I am not 100% sure. THEY ARE FAKE I bought some and confirmed theyre fakes. Just got a cracking deal on a new set of AP1s with a trade in on my Callaways at the pro shop at my local driving range. With golf being a confidence game, I dont need to worry about this in the middle of my back swing. Even if the price is nearly the same.BEWARE.buy from a pro that can fit you on a flightscope monitor or TRACKMAN and buy direct from the factory. It may be a company email address. Designed and constructed by master craftsman Katsuhiro Miura, each club is individually made using Miura's patented forging process. A lot of local pros wont even touch a counterfeit. no The PI-401 . United States Because of that experience I have since purchased a putter which is a clone on the Odessy Ice. Created on: 23-Mar-98 Milling marks are much more pronounced on the counterfeit. The seller is Designer Golf Apparel and equipment, for location they have east coast of US, and they also have NO RETURNS on the listing. Most OEM manufacturers only place a serial number on a single club like the 6 or 8 iron. Seriously guy, I feel absolutely nothing for your loss. That should have been my first clue. Does anyone know about this? the next time i buy clubs, thats what i will be doing. Clones are made in the same image, likeness, material, specifications, etc. So they turn to the U.S. government to enforce U.S. patents. I think we can safelf add http://www.golfclubsseller.com and http://shoponlinewholesaler.com/ to the list of fake sites. Clue two: No physical address. thats it. Happy Golfing. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting you cant tell me a tp driver costs 500 bucks to make but a standard tm driver will still net a profit on sale next year for 150. hi everyone, btw sorry for my bad english (im a french canadian from quebec) ive just purchase a nike sq dymo driver on the web and the driver has not aiming mark on the crown (the two little triangle ) do you think its a fake ??? So most likely I will be paying a few hundred more for a new set, but at least I know theyll be legit and all mine. (note: an obvious sign of fake R9 clubs from China is when they do not offer KBS shafts which are standard run a mile when they say no KBS!). =. Miura is happy to constantly improve and make the best irons there are. There are now lots of middle-men involved in the production of a golf clubbelieve it or not there might be over 75 people touching a design before it hits the shelves. You will receive fake products Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. Thankfully, the counterfeit golf club issue has slowed some in the last couple of years thanks to people being more aware of the problem. This allows for off-center hitting errors and any weight which is spare ( if this is a good way of putting it ) can then be used to fit adjustable cartridges into the periphary of the clubhead allowing one to adjust ball-flight characteristics. I just bought a set of diablo edge irons from the callaway pre-owned web site. : I use all legit golf club components. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-Golf-heads-Miura-black-Golf-wedges-head-Set-50-56-58-loft-Golf-Clubs-head/32781024251.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.32.DEQwt2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10136_10137_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10148_10147_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10119_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10181_10182_10078_10079_10073_10070_10123_10120_10124-10120,searchweb201603_4,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=d7341b42-ba58-4df7-9afd-243ecc8b2df9&algo_expid=60aeb13b-909a-4aa7-b78d-421f3f8d0eab-4&algo_pvid=60aeb13b-909a-4aa7-b78d-421f3f8d0eab, Cobra 10.5 F6+ Fujikura Motore F1 75 X When I looked into it a bit more, I realised I was right to panic! Will keep my fingers crossed that it is not a fake. Knock off a supplier and another will take its place as long as demand is there. I am also wondering about http://www.BudgetGolf.com. Shop our wide collection of Miura golf clubs at PGA TOUR Superstore. No theres not, just joking. I didnt get a ridiculous price but saved a couple hundred which of course I put to good use at a local shop on a used driver. Registrant Organization: Brandgolfclubs No worries . EmperorPenguin 5545 Fermi Court I just received a callaway razor fit driver from jacks golf. I was wanting to know some information on these websites. BUYER BEWARE!!!!! Factory Warranty or go to the store. Of course living in Fairhaven I told them I needed to go over to the company headquarters and speak w/ someone about the legit.. of the club. He got the package from UPS what I saw. I would have to think Dodge played a part in selling some of those parts bin. I am worried they either sell knock offs, or are trying to run a scam to get money or credit cards. [emailprotected] and we will refund you Because its wrong for the OEMs to do this. It wasnt drastically cheaper than retail, but substantial. They cant give any serial number (usually on Ping 8 iron). Go to a legit store and pay the price to get what you want and dont end up with a $180.00 paperweight. You would better suited going to a trusted local outlet who will fit you to the clubs that best suit you and provide the confidence the clubs are the genuine article. One only has to google china golf to get hundreds of hits from sites selling genuine OEM products I have had many a conversation (for sport) with online consultants trying to convince me of the value and authenticity of their products you should try it sometime as can be fun to see them squirm in text. That iron seem same way as mine, not make any different. Thanks!! Im seeing about 10 yards additional distance with each club over my previous set (RAM Tours). Thanks again. I have seen many posts where people ask how to Sell Your Golf Stuff Fast so they can get the answer from here as how and what to be done before buying golf clubs. I agree with all you said, i guess I just hoped someone would have said yes it is genuine however assessing your Chinese jive, I will avoid this and save my 240. Caveat emptor. If you havent yet purchased clubs, I would recommend staying away from this site. I have a set of Wilson made Arnold Palmer signature clubs marked Personal with Reg No 37380 and would like to find out any information on them. It seems way to cheap to be real. It might be a way to get a premium product for a discount price. Any help would be appreciated. The end. Thanks for your help. I buy Chinese clubs. Japan JDM. I 19:47:00, Sir,our clubs are not 100% original but would perform the same. The other weird thing is that he is based out of Florida but my package was shipped from Alabama. Congratulations on scoring some Miuras. The best way to put counterfeiters out of business is to educate buyers on how to avoid buying their products. 4) Within the source code of the page there are Chinese comments..checkout line 347: The seller said the delay was due to Just seems to good to be true. I get sale flyers from reputable dealers like TGW & Edwin Watts, etc. Phone number in HK is non existing no such no. HiI found a good deal on a set of Taylormade R9 irons on http://www.golfbestdiscount.com any advice on this website? Has anybody ever bought anything off of worldgolfsupplies on ebay? The chance here is that they got screwed and are passing the screwing on, but you weed that out when you check the pics and ask the questions. Last Updated on: 22-Mar-09, Administrative Contact: Hope this helps! Today's Forum Thread of the Day comes from psgolf23, who has fallen hard for the aesthetics of Miura's MC 501 blades and asked fellow GolfWRX members for any insight into the performance of the irons. However, there are serial numbers on the hosel of the clubs, but for some reason, the 4 iron is a different number. we get clubs from the qualified OEM,mainly made for Hongkong and Japanese market I receive the clubs in a few days. https://www.ebay.com/itm/155100568154?nma=true&si=FKPXmduLxHWeUm2mAA1sp4qnT9w%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557. Dont be an idiot. The dealer admitted that it was hard to see, but there were some differences. question what would be the major differences in the clubs against the origianls? Counterfeit Scotty Cameron. Many of the counterfeit clubs I have seen will look totally different from address than an authentic club. I have not done business with any of the above, nor do I recommend any of them. they are counterfeit and fake and wont deliver all your order!! Anyone seen this web site as advertising Taylor made R11 set for 689 including woods putter and bag? The person checked with that club and said, Im sorry that we cant trade with this fake club! Daisy 00:13:10 Thanks. If you purchace clubs online just make sure you use paypal. Come on man, WAKE UP! I purchased a set of FT-ibrids from him and am wondering after reading on hear if they are authentic. Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver United States, Domain Name: MYSURBUY.COM These guys are a complete rip off so dont touch them with a pole. I filed the complaint this AM with PayPal and checked my Email shortly after. That can sometimes be a good tipyour right pengyun. The 8-iron has the serial number and callaway accpeted the registration. : REGISTER.COM, INC. You can find discounts from geniune online companies. http://www.mygolfpurchase.com, prices are extremely cheap and the person you can talk to can barely speak english, suspect the clubs are fake so beware everyone! Then I saw there was another listing by golfetail for the same club with a buy it now option and it was $50 less than my previous winning bid. So those of you worried that you may get ripped off by one of these sites need to take a step back and ask yourself, do I really need the name brand if I can only afford to pay the $500 these sites are charging and if so you must realize you usually get what you pay for so. So is this guy Ping G30 5-wood authentic. Must admit that the prices looked to good to be true and the about us citation was written in pidgin English but the pictures of the clubs looked so real. Ive disputed the charge with my cc company and am awaiting resolution. By Are there any options for me to get my money back? (odd to say I know) Its a ladies Adams 13 pc A3 OS. Its wrong for us to participate. Cheers. R&D is expensive. Yururi, Miura, Crazy; What's in the Bag? Did as much checking as possible. They have the same minimum advertising prices as us so if it is cheaper then it is too good to be true 99.9% of the time. Notice they say the same quality as the origials (originals)because they are not original!!! My clubs havent arrived yet but based on this site and my buying experience, I am confident I made a good purchase. So do contact the brand you are looking for and ask for your nearest outlet then there genuine there no such thing as an OEM i have been told. I am looking at the Wilson ci 11 irons. A2C2 Counterfeit Parts Testing. They seem to have large supply and positive feedback. TL;DR, Dont cry for the golf companies; protecting their profits costs U.S. jobs and taxpayer money. NS2.FASTNEXT.COM. Sure! I was bored and curious one night so I chatted with some of these online websites and always got the same type answers for the simple question Are these authentic clubs. All our clubs are OEM which actually means theyre counterfeit. registered in the building. It is a scam. Can easily tell when the grooves have dirt/grass in them and need to be cleaned. Its called being an accessory to the crime. the typhoon in guangzhou. If they dont cancel your order, you should be worried!!! I took a closer look at it and it was indeed a fake, the manager of the store agreed so they had to take it off the rack. the pictures were from a regular camera. I live in the UK and recently purchased a used Taylormade Rescue 09 from GlobalGolf. I support my local PGA professionals with genuine items over the net. Pasted as rich text. Those other sites just seem far too dodgy. I have not recived my clubs yet,but after reciving tracking number i can tell they vere shipped from new jersey. Miura MC-501 irons. Some of them said, that is fake brand of golf set. And iron setsshewwww fogetaboutit! They are offering Mizuno MP 59 irons for $408.00. Status: Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $17,518,000 and employs a staff of approximately 43. That may happen for some of the lesser brands of clubs but I am sure the more ethical manufacturers such as Titleist or Ping would not allow anything of the sort. www.callawaygolf.com Yes Stef Hurricane is legit but I would not use discountgolfclubsthe owner has many issues on ripoff report. Also I cancelled the order. Thats the real question. Gday, These irons have a unique design with some reductions of perimeter weighting and more weighting allocated behind the sweet spot. When you get down to it, Ill take a slightly less pretty club over a possible fake every day of the week. See our. lol Or just simply ask if the clubs have a factory warranty. The site has good reviews via a basic Google search and professes to be selling from the US. Didnt notice milling on the back.. ask for more pictures of hosel and soles. Email : Technical Contact: I had the same concern. But a DNS search shows a Hong Kong manufacturing company unaffiliated with Taylormade. I have just come across this thread after seeing a number of obviously fake or quite suspicious websites out there selling clubs. Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex GripMaster Club Maker's Stitchback Grips 34" Piretti Bosa, GripMaster Pistol Grip Registered Bladeocrat Outlaw Golf Association Member #7 chriswsurprenant Advanced Members 81 Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% This site has been mentioned in some of the comments above, but can anyone confirm that this is a genuine site and good to order from? the club didnt actually come from Taylormade but was made with parts. Check out the club manufacturers website for approve online retailers. as well as honest reporting on the latest issues affecting the game golfwholesale18 customer service. This manufacturer does not traditionally take care of marketing or tries to sell its clubs with advertising promises. A guy in China does not give a crap if your 6 iron weighs the same as your 5 iron in grams. or does anyone know of a inexpensive decent set and or single clubs? Why should a buyer waste time in checking who is real, (i am not IT tech) when the governements or controlling agencies should help more here? Reminiscent of hitting a rock with a wooden baseball bat. 1) It says its based in the UK, but the Contact Us section says its located in West London . Would love to hear more about your findingsour survey did not seem to be as high. The company i contacted was easterntrade.com.cn. What a close call and what a great ending! I recently bought a set of Ping G25 irons from golfdealonline.com and I think they may be fake. They are the real deal. They must be owned by the same Chinese company. clientTransferProhibited This is where the majority of the shadiness begins. When I called I just got a message saying the subscriber you are trying to reach. golfwholesaleseller.com told me that they use oem products. * Wiki article on Golfdiscounting.com The only thing that sticks out here is the site has only been up since July of 09 and the registered owner has 119 other sites listed under his email address. Cleveland They appear to opearte out of kingswood golf and country club in surrey and seem to be a registered seller with taylormade. We did a random survey of 100 golf club listings on EBAY a couple months ago and our Golf Club Scam Alert System found that there was a high-probability that 24 of those listings were FAKES! The Titleist Miura Forged Replica irons released in 1998. Thanks. I have been looking for a Taylormade Burner recently and was disappointed to miss out on a couple of ebay auctions, but after reading this think it was a blessing! does this website sell gunuine clubs, they say they are sent from the OEM factory.